David and CK begin with an unexpected journey exploring the current state of the world, and viewing it from an authoritarian vs individual perspective
then, we take a slight detour to conspiracy theories around Netflix and soft-core pedophilia (?)
Then, into the meat debating the merits of DeFi tokens with treasuries
CK: DeFi tokens will trend towards 0 vs BTC
David: They wont go to 0, because they're designed to accrue money, in whatever form money comes in. They're a hard money multiplierÂ
Then we get into the subject of contracts... custodians vs not custodians... hint: it depends!